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EGM's 'FINAL WORD' on PlayStation 3
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2005-06-30 22:08:20 UTC
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"What do you think about the PlayStation 3 so far?"

Dan 'Shoe' Hsu:

"Smoke and mirrors. Almost all the videos Sony has shown aren't from real
games. They're either prerendered "target videos" showing what they *expect*
their games will look like, or they're short demos that don't have to take
into account things like artificial intelligence, gameplay, etc. Any
developer can make a short, controlled demo look better than what gamers
will actually get to play"


John Ricciardi:

"I'm sure we got a great demo of what PS4 games will actually be like, but
even so, it's amazing what Sony pulled out of its ass for the Electronic
Entertainment Expo (E3). No one was expecting that much stuff to be rolled
out, and as a result Sony turned the tables on the competition very quickly.
They provoked more questions than anything though. Spring 2006? Is that
enough time for games to be made? Is the DualShock really going to look like
a banana? And with all that crazy tech, just how expensive is the thing
going to be?"
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the above is directly from the August 2005 Electronic Gaming Monthly -
page 128


I totally agree with EGM editor John Ricciardi that the spectacular demos
Sony showed, especially
Killzone and Motor Storm, are no doubt what we can expect from PlayStation
4 games in 6-7 years,
not PlayStation 3 games in 1-5 years.
Boody Bandit
2005-07-01 00:30:40 UTC
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I totally agree with EGM editor John Ricciardi
Goodie for you troll
msgs
2005-07-01 08:53:31 UTC
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When I first so the videos (KillZone and the racing game) I was laughing my
ass off thinking "yeah, Sony's doing it again. Pre-rendered gfx."

And I wasn't even surprised, I'm so used to Sony's lies.

What I find surprising is that a) even after over hyping PS1 and PS2, people
STILL believe Sony's lies (gflops numbers, these videos etc) and b) that no
one has sued them for lying.

Watching Sony's shows is a lot like watching Apple shows. A lot of talk, a
lot of lies, and a huge crowd (of idiots?) who believe every word, even
after they've been lied to several times before.

Oh well.
Vitani
2005-07-01 09:51:19 UTC
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Post by msgs
When I first so the videos (KillZone and the racing game) I was laughing my
ass off thinking "yeah, Sony's doing it again. Pre-rendered gfx."
And I wasn't even surprised, I'm so used to Sony's lies.
What I find surprising is that a) even after over hyping PS1 and PS2, people
STILL believe Sony's lies (gflops numbers, these videos etc) and b) that no
one has sued them for lying.
Watching Sony's shows is a lot like watching Apple shows. A lot of talk, a
lot of lies, and a huge crowd (of idiots?) who believe every word, even
after they've been lied to several times before.
Oh well.
well said
Nick Vargish
2005-07-01 12:15:11 UTC
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Post by msgs
Watching Sony's shows is a lot like watching Apple shows. A lot of talk, a
lot of lies, and a huge crowd (of idiots?) who believe every word, even
after they've been lied to several times before.
And this is different from any other company in the tech/entertainment
business how?

All the companies engage in hype-generating practices. Singling Sony
and Apple out for derision because of it just shows a bias on your
part.

Nick
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Boody Bandit
2005-07-01 12:18:52 UTC
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Post by Nick Vargish
Post by msgs
Watching Sony's shows is a lot like watching Apple shows. A lot of talk, a
lot of lies, and a huge crowd (of idiots?) who believe every word, even
after they've been lied to several times before.
And this is different from any other company in the tech/entertainment
business how?
All the companies engage in hype-generating practices. Singling Sony
and Apple out for derision because of it just shows a bias on your
part.
exactly
Pray for Mojo
2005-07-03 23:23:23 UTC
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Go marry Sony.
Post by Boody Bandit
Post by Nick Vargish
Post by msgs
Watching Sony's shows is a lot like watching Apple shows. A lot of
talk,
a
Post by Nick Vargish
Post by msgs
lot of lies, and a huge crowd (of idiots?) who believe every word, even
after they've been lied to several times before.
And this is different from any other company in the tech/entertainment
business how?
All the companies engage in hype-generating practices. Singling Sony
and Apple out for derision because of it just shows a bias on your
part.
exactly
Boody Bandit
2005-07-03 23:51:32 UTC
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Post by Pray for Mojo
Go marry Sony.
Go suck horse cock
Vitani
2005-07-01 13:16:11 UTC
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Post by Nick Vargish
Post by msgs
Watching Sony's shows is a lot like watching Apple shows. A lot of talk, a
lot of lies, and a huge crowd (of idiots?) who believe every word, even
after they've been lied to several times before.
And this is different from any other company in the tech/entertainment
business how?
All the companies engage in hype-generating practices. Singling Sony
and Apple out for derision because of it just shows a bias on your
part.
Nick
I think the point he was making was that people, after all this time,
still believe Sony & Apple's hype. When MS say the next version of
Windows is going to be the most secure ever, people /don't/ believe
them, nor do they believe it when AOL say that it's worth paying more
for their extra services.

Experience has tought people about other companies, I wonder why people
still believe others after being lied to so much?

I don't believe Nintendo when they say the Revolution is going to be
revolutionary, nor do I believe that XBox360 will be as powerful at the PS3
Adrian
2005-07-01 16:13:05 UTC
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Post by Vitani
Post by Nick Vargish
Post by msgs
Watching Sony's shows is a lot like watching Apple shows. A lot of
talk, a lot of lies, and a huge crowd (of idiots?) who believe every
word, even after they've been lied to several times before.
And this is different from any other company in the tech/entertainment
business how?
All the companies engage in hype-generating practices. Singling Sony
and Apple out for derision because of it just shows a bias on your
part.
Nick
I think the point he was making was that people, after all this time,
still believe Sony & Apple's hype. When MS say the next version of
Windows is going to be the most secure ever, people /don't/ believe
them, nor do they believe it when AOL say that it's worth paying more
for their extra services.
Experience has tought people about other companies, I wonder why people
still believe others after being lied to so much?
I don't believe Nintendo when they say the Revolution is going to be
revolutionary, nor do I believe that XBox360 will be as powerful at the PS3
From reading the specs, it probably won't be till towards the end of
the consoles (all) life cycles that it will be noticeable. I think it
will be the quality of the games written that will make most of the
differences, at lest for that first few years anyway. I don't trust big
companys or governments to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing
but the truth. So G_d help them! (:
Happy Gaming Everyone.
Pray for Mojo
2005-07-03 23:23:11 UTC
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Post by Nick Vargish
All the companies engage in hype-generating practices. Singling Sony
and Apple out for derision because of it just shows a bias on your
Nowhere near as much as Sony. Sony is particularly evil, trust me. TRUST
me.
Nick Vargish
2005-07-04 13:10:52 UTC
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Post by Pray for Mojo
Nowhere near as much as Sony. Sony is particularly evil, trust me. TRUST
me.
This, and your "marry sony" comment to someone who agreed with me,
only prove my point about seeming biased.

Nick
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