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Playstation3 price: $400 U.S. Dollars
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2005-06-29 00:57:13 UTC
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http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/06/28/news_6128295.html
Report: PS3 to sell for $399, cost $494 to make

Merrill Lynch Japan predicts Sony will lose more than $1 billion on hardware
during its next-gen console's first year on the market--a sum it may not be
able to recoup.
According to the latest issue of Japanese magazine Toyo Keizai, Merrill
Lynch Japan Securities has recently calculated an analysis that the
production of a single PlayStation 3 console will cost Sony approximately
54,000 yen to make ($494), as of its initial release in 2006.


Merrill Lynch Japan estimates that the machine's main components--namely its
Cell chip, RSX, and BD-ROM drive--will cost about 11,000 yen ($101) each.
After adding the other electronics that will be used in the PS3, the
machine's production cost goes up to 54,000 yen.

Given that Sony's PS3 will face stiff competition from Microsoft's Xbox 360,
the chances that Sony will release its console at its production cost is
slim. Under the assumption that the Xbox 360 is expected to sell at around
$299, Merrill Lynch Japan predicts that Sony will sell each PS3 at the price
of 44,800 yen ($410) in Japan and $399 in America. That would mean Sony
would suffer a loss of more than 130 billion yen ($1.18 billion) during the
first year of the PS3's release.

By comparison, the PlayStation 2 cost 39,800 yen ($364) in Japan and $299 in
America when it launched in 2000. During its first year of release, Sony
Computer Entertainment suffered a loss of 51.1 billion yen ($458 million),
but it recovered the next year with a profit of 82.9 billion yen ($759
million), followed by 112.6 billion yen ($1.03 billion) the year after.

It is normal for game companies to take a loss on hardware whenever a new
console launches, since they typically focus on acquiring market share
rather than generating a profit during the first year. During the second
year and afterward, they can recover the losses with the savings that come
from mass production and with licensing fees from publishers.

However, Merrill Lynch Japan warns that the normal console business cycle
may be disrupted if Microsoft cuts the Xbox 360's price when the PlayStation
3 launches. The report goes on to say that such a move could hurt Sony's
plans, bringing an additional loss of 80 billion yen ($730 million) in its
second year and 50 billion yen ($457 million) in its third year. Thus far,
Sony has already invested 200 billion yen ($1.83 billion) into development
and production for the Cell chip alone.

Toyo Keizai goes on to interview Sony Computer Entertainment president Ken
Kutaragi, who avoided revealing the PS3's price but hinted that it would not
be marked down excessively. "Whether consumers think a product is expensive
or cheap all depends on the balance between its appeal and price," he said.
"Our ideal [for the PS3] is for consumers to think to themselves, 'OK, I'll
work more hours and buy it.' We want people to feel that they want it, no
matter what."

"When Nintendo was selling its 16-bit machine at around 12,500 yen ($114),
we sold the first PlayStation at 39,800 yen ($364)," continued Kutaragi.
"The press was saying that it was expensive, but it was a huge hit. It's the
same thing with the PlayStation Portable from last year. The Game Boy
Advance is a same handheld gaming machine, and it costs less than 10
thousand yen ($91). On the other hand, our PSP had cost 25,000 yen ($229).
But people lined up overnight to buy it, and it sold out on the day of its
launch. It all depends on whether people want it. Of course, I'm confident
that the PS3 is a product that people will definitely want."


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Vin
2005-06-29 03:12:59 UTC
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Thus far, Sony has already invested 200 billion yen ($1.83 billion) into
development and production for the Cell chip alone.
thats insane
greenyammo
2005-06-29 08:46:42 UTC
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http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/06/28/news_6128295.html
Report: PS3 to sell for $399, cost $494 to make
Merrill Lynch Japan predicts Sony will lose more than $1 billion on hardware
during its next-gen console's first year on the market--a sum it may not be
able to recoup.
According to the latest issue of Japanese magazine Toyo Keizai, Merrill
Lynch Japan Securities has recently calculated an analysis that the
production of a single PlayStation 3 console will cost Sony approximately
54,000 yen to make ($494), as of its initial release in 2006.
Merrill Lynch Japan estimates that the machine's main components--namely its
Cell chip, RSX, and BD-ROM drive--will cost about 11,000 yen ($101) each.
After adding the other electronics that will be used in the PS3, the
machine's production cost goes up to 54,000 yen.
Given that Sony's PS3 will face stiff competition from Microsoft's Xbox 360,
the chances that Sony will release its console at its production cost is
slim. Under the assumption that the Xbox 360 is expected to sell at around
$299, Merrill Lynch Japan predicts that Sony will sell each PS3 at the price
of 44,800 yen ($410) in Japan and $399 in America. That would mean Sony
would suffer a loss of more than 130 billion yen ($1.18 billion) during the
first year of the PS3's release.
By comparison, the PlayStation 2 cost 39,800 yen ($364) in Japan and $299 in
America when it launched in 2000. During its first year of release, Sony
Computer Entertainment suffered a loss of 51.1 billion yen ($458 million),
but it recovered the next year with a profit of 82.9 billion yen ($759
million), followed by 112.6 billion yen ($1.03 billion) the year after.
It is normal for game companies to take a loss on hardware whenever a new
console launches, since they typically focus on acquiring market share
rather than generating a profit during the first year. During the second
year and afterward, they can recover the losses with the savings that come
from mass production and with licensing fees from publishers.
However, Merrill Lynch Japan warns that the normal console business cycle
may be disrupted if Microsoft cuts the Xbox 360's price when the PlayStation
3 launches. The report goes on to say that such a move could hurt Sony's
plans, bringing an additional loss of 80 billion yen ($730 million) in its
second year and 50 billion yen ($457 million) in its third year. Thus far,
Sony has already invested 200 billion yen ($1.83 billion) into development
and production for the Cell chip alone.
Toyo Keizai goes on to interview Sony Computer Entertainment president Ken
Kutaragi, who avoided revealing the PS3's price but hinted that it would not
be marked down excessively. "Whether consumers think a product is expensive
or cheap all depends on the balance between its appeal and price," he said.
"Our ideal [for the PS3] is for consumers to think to themselves, 'OK, I'll
work more hours and buy it.' We want people to feel that they want it, no
matter what."
"When Nintendo was selling its 16-bit machine at around 12,500 yen ($114),
we sold the first PlayStation at 39,800 yen ($364)," continued Kutaragi.
"The press was saying that it was expensive, but it was a huge hit. It's the
same thing with the PlayStation Portable from last year. The Game Boy
Advance is a same handheld gaming machine, and it costs less than 10
thousand yen ($91). On the other hand, our PSP had cost 25,000 yen ($229).
But people lined up overnight to buy it, and it sold out on the day of its
launch. It all depends on whether people want it. Of course, I'm confident
that the PS3 is a product that people will definitely want."
The bigger they are the harder they fall. Sony's time at the top will
have end at some point (maybe not even this generation) I just hope they
haven't invested so much money that it brings down their TV empire as well.
Miles Bader
2005-06-29 14:19:01 UTC
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Post by greenyammo
The bigger they are the harder they fall. Sony's time at the top will
have end at some point (maybe not even this generation) I just hope they
haven't invested so much money that it brings down their TV empire as well.
I wonder what's going to happen to Kutaragi... in five years time will
mothers scare their children with tales of the crazy old homeless guy
who haunts the streets of Aoyama, grinning creepily at passersby and
muttering "We _meant_ to implode and bring Sony down... it was
_intentional_... we meant it....yes...yesss"?

-Miles
--
"Nah, there's no bigger atheist than me. Well, I take that back.
I'm a cancer screening away from going agnostic and a biopsy away
from full-fledged Christian." [Adam Carolla]
Seefor
2005-06-29 14:25:36 UTC
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The bigger they are the harder they fall. Sony's time at the top will have
end at some point (maybe not even this generation) I just hope they
haven't invested so much money that it brings down their TV empire as well.
It starts:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/4632931.stm
GMAN
2005-06-29 18:40:43 UTC
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Post by Seefor
The bigger they are the harder they fall. Sony's time at the top will have
end at some point (maybe not even this generation) I just hope they
haven't invested so much money that it brings down their TV empire as well.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/4632931.stm
All that shows is that the demand for old style CRT's have fallen in favor of
LCD, DLP, and plasma technologies. How in the hell does this have anything to
do with the PS3 or Sony's solvency?
Ron Mexico
2005-06-29 19:41:53 UTC
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Post by GMAN
Post by Seefor
The bigger they are the harder they fall. Sony's time at the top will have
end at some point (maybe not even this generation) I just hope they
haven't invested so much money that it brings down their TV empire as well.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/4632931.stm
All that shows is that the demand for old style CRT's have fallen in favor of
LCD, DLP, and plasma technologies. How in the hell does this have anything to
do with the PS3 or Sony's solvency?
I was wondering the same thing. Maybe if he had pointed to the link about
Sony dropping out of the plasma production loop in favor of LCD that would
have been a little closer to being relevant even though it is only a rumor.
Seefor
2005-06-29 22:14:38 UTC
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Post by Ron Mexico
Post by GMAN
Post by Seefor
The bigger they are the harder they fall. Sony's time at the top will have
end at some point (maybe not even this generation) I just hope they
haven't invested so much money that it brings down their TV empire as well.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/4632931.stm
All that shows is that the demand for old style CRT's have fallen in favor of
LCD, DLP, and plasma technologies. How in the hell does this have anything to
do with the PS3 or Sony's solvency?
I was wondering the same thing. Maybe if he had pointed to the link about
Sony dropping out of the plasma production loop in favor of LCD that would
have been a little closer to being relevant even though it is only a rumor.
Either way Playstation will fade and die. I am right, and will be proven
right.
Ron Mexico
2005-06-30 02:41:57 UTC
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Post by Seefor
Post by Ron Mexico
Post by GMAN
Post by Seefor
The bigger they are the harder they fall. Sony's time at the top will have
end at some point (maybe not even this generation) I just hope they
haven't invested so much money that it brings down their TV empire as well.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/4632931.stm
All that shows is that the demand for old style CRT's have fallen in favor of
LCD, DLP, and plasma technologies. How in the hell does this have anything to
do with the PS3 or Sony's solvency?
I was wondering the same thing. Maybe if he had pointed to the link
about Sony dropping out of the plasma production loop in favor of LCD
that would have been a little closer to being relevant even though it is
only a rumor.
Either way Playstation will fade and die. I am right, and will be proven
right.
No, you are a moron and you have proven so every time you post.
Seefor
2005-06-30 08:42:26 UTC
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Post by Ron Mexico
Post by Seefor
Post by Ron Mexico
Post by GMAN
Post by Seefor
The bigger they are the harder they fall. Sony's time at the top will have
end at some point (maybe not even this generation) I just hope they
haven't invested so much money that it brings down their TV empire as well.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/4632931.stm
All that shows is that the demand for old style CRT's have fallen in favor of
LCD, DLP, and plasma technologies. How in the hell does this have anything to
do with the PS3 or Sony's solvency?
I was wondering the same thing. Maybe if he had pointed to the link
about Sony dropping out of the plasma production loop in favor of LCD
that would have been a little closer to being relevant even though it is
only a rumor.
Either way Playstation will fade and die. I am right, and will be proven
right.
No, you are a moron and you have proven so every time you post.
With a wit like that, you should be a professional wrestler.
Boody Bandit
2005-06-30 15:17:42 UTC
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Post by Seefor
Post by Ron Mexico
Post by Seefor
Post by Ron Mexico
Post by GMAN
Post by Seefor
Post by greenyammo
The bigger they are the harder they fall. Sony's time at the top will
have
end at some point (maybe not even this generation) I just hope they
haven't invested so much money that it brings down their TV empire
as
Post by Seefor
Post by Ron Mexico
Post by Seefor
Post by Ron Mexico
Post by GMAN
Post by Seefor
Post by greenyammo
well.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/4632931.stm
All that shows is that the demand for old style CRT's have fallen in favor of
LCD, DLP, and plasma technologies. How in the hell does this have anything to
do with the PS3 or Sony's solvency?
I was wondering the same thing. Maybe if he had pointed to the link
about Sony dropping out of the plasma production loop in favor of LCD
that would have been a little closer to being relevant even though it is
only a rumor.
Either way Playstation will fade and die. I am right, and will be proven
right.
No, you are a moron and you have proven so every time you post.
With a wit like that, you should be a professional wrestler.
and with dumbfuck predictions like yours, you should be a fortune teller at
a carnival
Fred Liken
2005-06-30 15:54:04 UTC
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Post by Seefor
Post by Ron Mexico
No, you are a moron and you have proven so every time you post.
With a wit like that, you should be a professional wrestler.
IAWTP
Ron Mexico
2005-06-30 16:12:37 UTC
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Post by Seefor
Post by Ron Mexico
No, you are a moron and you have proven so every time you post.
With a wit like that, you should be a professional wrestler.
IAWTP
Of course you are. You blow everyone who disagrees with me.
Fred Liken
2005-06-30 16:55:02 UTC
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Post by Ron Mexico
Post by Seefor
Post by Ron Mexico
No, you are a moron and you have proven so every time you post.
With a wit like that, you should be a professional wrestler.
IAWTP
Of course you are. You blow everyone who disagrees with me.
Oh, that if you aren't with me you're against me attitude I've grown so fond
of, my friend.
Ron Mexico
2005-06-30 23:08:09 UTC
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Post by Fred Liken
Post by Ron Mexico
Post by Seefor
Post by Ron Mexico
No, you are a moron and you have proven so every time you post.
With a wit like that, you should be a professional wrestler.
IAWTP
Of course you are. You blow everyone who disagrees with me.
Oh, that if you aren't with me you're against me attitude I've grown so
fond of, my friend.
There is no way for you to deny this one so just let it go.
Strychnine
2005-07-01 03:49:58 UTC
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Post by Fred Liken
Post by Ron Mexico
Post by Seefor
Post by Ron Mexico
No, you are a moron and you have proven so every time you post.
With a wit like that, you should be a professional wrestler.
IAWTP
Of course you are. You blow everyone who disagrees with me.
Oh, that if you aren't with me you're against me attitude I've grown so
fond of, my friend.
He probably got it from Prez. Bush..
Fred Liken
2005-07-01 17:13:01 UTC
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Post by Strychnine
He probably got it from Prez. Bush..
Yep, he's a big supporter.
MS#1Fanboy-JoJo
2005-07-01 17:37:57 UTC
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Post by Fred Liken
Post by Strychnine
He probably got it from Prez. Bush..
Yep, he's a big supporter.
And a tard.
Fred Liken
2005-07-01 19:32:02 UTC
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Post by MS#1Fanboy-JoJo
Post by Fred Liken
Post by Strychnine
He probably got it from Prez. Bush..
Yep, he's a big supporter.
And a tard.
Oh, why are you two love birds mad at each other? Mattinglyfan gag?
MS#1Fanboy-JoJo
2005-07-01 21:32:01 UTC
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Post by Fred Liken
Post by MS#1Fanboy-JoJo
Post by Fred Liken
Post by Strychnine
He probably got it from Prez. Bush..
Yep, he's a big supporter.
And a tard.
Oh, why are you two love birds mad at each other? Mattinglyfan gag?
I'm talking about Bush. Did you really have to ask?
Fred Liken
2005-07-06 22:13:01 UTC
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Post by MS#1Fanboy-JoJo
Post by Fred Liken
Post by MS#1Fanboy-JoJo
Post by Fred Liken
Post by Strychnine
He probably got it from Prez. Bush..
Yep, he's a big supporter.
And a tard.
Oh, why are you two love birds mad at each other? Mattinglyfan gag?
I'm talking about Bush. Did you really have to ask?
Well, when you say that Mattinglyfan aka Ron Texaco is a big tard, then yes,
one would have to ask why you'd say that and if the honeymoon was over.
Ron Mexico
2005-07-06 23:59:13 UTC
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Post by Fred Liken
Post by MS#1Fanboy-JoJo
Post by Fred Liken
Post by MS#1Fanboy-JoJo
Post by Fred Liken
Post by Strychnine
He probably got it from Prez. Bush..
Yep, he's a big supporter.
And a tard.
Oh, why are you two love birds mad at each other? Mattinglyfan gag?
I'm talking about Bush. Did you really have to ask?
Well, when you say that Mattinglyfan aka Ron Texaco is a big tard, then
yes, one would have to ask why you'd say that and if the honeymoon was
over.
You are so dumb it hurts some time.
Fred Liken
2005-07-07 02:27:02 UTC
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Post by Ron Mexico
Post by Fred Liken
Post by MS#1Fanboy-JoJo
Post by Fred Liken
Post by MS#1Fanboy-JoJo
Post by Fred Liken
Post by Strychnine
He probably got it from Prez. Bush..
Yep, he's a big supporter.
And a tard.
Oh, why are you two love birds mad at each other? Mattinglyfan gag?
I'm talking about Bush. Did you really have to ask?
Well, when you say that Mattinglyfan aka Ron Texaco is a big tard, then
yes, one would have to ask why you'd say that and if the honeymoon was
over.
You are so dumb it hurts some time.
lol. Perception. You can hardly trust your limited comprehension abilities
enough to throw stones, son.

Person A: He (MattinglyFan) probably got it from Prez. Bush.

Me: Yes, he's (MattinglyFan's) a big supporter.

Jojo: (Yes, he's (MattinglyFan's) a big supporter) and a tard.

Me: Oh, why...
...

You: I'm an oblivious twat! AAAAUUUURRRRRGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!! EUr Dum!

Me: lol. Perception. You can hardly trust your limited comprehension
abilities enough to throw stones, son.
Ron Mexico
2005-07-07 06:11:58 UTC
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Post by Fred Liken
Post by Ron Mexico
Post by Fred Liken
Post by MS#1Fanboy-JoJo
Post by Fred Liken
Post by MS#1Fanboy-JoJo
Post by Fred Liken
Post by Strychnine
He probably got it from Prez. Bush..
Yep, he's a big supporter.
And a tard.
Oh, why are you two love birds mad at each other? Mattinglyfan gag?
I'm talking about Bush. Did you really have to ask?
Well, when you say that Mattinglyfan aka Ron Texaco is a big tard, then
yes, one would have to ask why you'd say that and if the honeymoon was
over.
You are so dumb it hurts some time.
lol. Perception. You can hardly trust your limited comprehension
abilities enough to throw stones, son.
Person A: He (MattinglyFan) probably got it from Prez. Bush.
Me: Yes, he's (MattinglyFan's) a big supporter.
Jojo: (Yes, he's (MattinglyFan's) a big supporter) and a tard.
Me: Oh, why...
...
You: I'm an oblivious twat! AAAAUUUURRRRRGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!! EUr Dum!
Me: lol. Perception. You can hardly trust your limited comprehension
abilities enough to throw stones, son.
Lady: Hello, this is Candy, how may I help you.

You: Well Candy, I'm 38 years old and have never felt the touch of a woman

Lady: Oh my goodness, you poor baby! You are 38 and a virgin?

You: I didn't say I was a virgin, I just said that I had never felt the
touch of a woman.

Lady: Sweety, we are going to take care of that as soon as possible. Where
do you live?

You: ............................. street, Anytown USA.

Lady: I will have one of my best girls head right over.

You: That's neato but can you make sure that she doesn't knock on the front
door. My mom doesn't understand that a grown man has urges and she is still
spouting that, "Not under my roof", bs she has been giving me for the last
20 years.

Lady: Ok, Visa or MasterCard, sweety.

You: Actually, American Express. But can you tell me how it will show up
on the statement because I need to convince my dad that it was for more
model airplanes.
Fred Liken
2005-07-07 14:29:01 UTC
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Ron Mexico
2005-07-07 16:14:53 UTC
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The king of acronymns knows what the first part is. In case you can't find
the second part online it is I OWN YOU BITCH.
Fred Liken
2005-07-07 19:23:01 UTC
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Post by Ron Mexico
The king of acronymns knows what the first part is. In case you can't
find the second part online it is I OWN YOU BITCH.
Your insults are tired and your flailing at trying to save face for being
owned is sad. :(

And I thought they said ignorance was bliss, but it only seems to bring you
anxiety as you feel left out of the intelligent conversations due to your
complete ignorance of the subjects. All you do is insult people, no
content. So sad.
Ron Mexico
2005-07-07 22:37:05 UTC
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Post by Fred Liken
Post by Ron Mexico
The king of acronymns knows what the first part is. In case you can't
find the second part online it is I OWN YOU BITCH.
Your insults are tired and your flailing at trying to save face for being
owned is sad. :(
And I thought they said ignorance was bliss, but it only seems to bring
you anxiety as you feel left out of the intelligent conversations due to
your complete ignorance of the subjects. All you do is insult people, no
content. So sad.
Have you noticed that you never have any response for me? That is because I
have embarrassed you so many different times that it is your "prideful" way
of conceding this point. You are lame and everyone knows it. The irony of
"All you do is insult people" is that, this is your mantra. The part about
"no content" is especially funny because every come back you have is in the
same dull "you're retarded" vein. You are such a beyotch that I don't even
have to break out the good stuff on you. You are like a cheap date. I own
you and that is the bottom line, Cause Stone Cold said so!
Ron Mexico
2005-07-08 14:39:02 UTC
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You are such a beyotch that I don't even have to break out the good stuff
on you. You are like a cheap date. I own you and that is the bottom
line, Cause Stone Cold said so!
Meh, that's just your defense mechanisms kicking in. You're too fragile to
accept the fact. :(
Mattinglyfan
2005-07-08 19:12:31 UTC
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Post by Ron Mexico
You are such a beyotch that I don't even have to break out the good stuff
on you. You are like a cheap date. I own you and that is the bottom
line, Cause Stone Cold said so!
Meh, that's just your defense mechanisms kicking in. You're too fragile
to accept the fact. :(
Further proof that I own you.
Fred Liken
2005-07-08 20:30:01 UTC
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"Mattinglyfan" <***@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:G8adnbwzHc-2TVPfRVn-
Post by Mattinglyfan
Post by Ron Mexico
You are such a beyotch that I don't even have to break out the good
stuff on you. You are like a cheap date. I own you and that is the
bottom line, Cause Stone Cold said so!
Meh, that's just your defense mechanisms kicking in. You're too fragile
to accept the fact. :(
Further proof that I own you.
You're like a dog that thinks he's human. BAD DOG!!!!! No beggin' strips
for you, bad boy!
Mattinglyfan
2005-07-08 23:16:47 UTC
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Post by Fred Liken
news:G8adnbwzHc-2TVPfRVn-
Post by Mattinglyfan
Post by Ron Mexico
You are such a beyotch that I don't even have to break out the good
stuff on you. You are like a cheap date. I own you and that is the
bottom line, Cause Stone Cold said so!
Meh, that's just your defense mechanisms kicking in. You're too fragile
to accept the fact. :(
Further proof that I own you.
You're like a dog that thinks he's human. BAD DOG!!!!! No beggin' strips
for you, bad boy!
Keep facilitating your ownage, tool.
Fred Liken
2005-07-11 19:18:03 UTC
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Post by Mattinglyfan
Post by Fred Liken
Post by Mattinglyfan
Post by Ron Mexico
You are such a beyotch that I don't even have to break out the good
stuff on you. You are like a cheap date. I own you and that is the
bottom line, Cause Stone Cold said so!
Meh, that's just your defense mechanisms kicking in. You're too
fragile to accept the fact. :(
Further proof that I own you.
You're like a dog that thinks he's human. BAD DOG!!!!! No beggin'
strips for you, bad boy!
Keep facilitating your ownage, tool.
hehehe, you believe that and that's funny!

MS#1Fanboy-JoJo
2005-07-07 14:43:15 UTC
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In article <TOGdnS6VMNclWlHfRVn-***@comcast.com>, ***@comcast.net
says...
Post by Ron Mexico
Post by Fred Liken
Post by Ron Mexico
Post by Fred Liken
Post by MS#1Fanboy-JoJo
Post by Fred Liken
Post by MS#1Fanboy-JoJo
Post by Fred Liken
Post by Strychnine
He probably got it from Prez. Bush..
Yep, he's a big supporter.
And a tard.
Oh, why are you two love birds mad at each other? Mattinglyfan gag?
I'm talking about Bush. Did you really have to ask?
Well, when you say that Mattinglyfan aka Ron Texaco is a big tard, then
yes, one would have to ask why you'd say that and if the honeymoon was
over.
You are so dumb it hurts some time.
lol. Perception. You can hardly trust your limited comprehension
abilities enough to throw stones, son.
Person A: He (MattinglyFan) probably got it from Prez. Bush.
Me: Yes, he's (MattinglyFan's) a big supporter.
Jojo: (Yes, he's (MattinglyFan's) a big supporter) and a tard.
Me: Oh, why...
...
You: I'm an oblivious twat! AAAAUUUURRRRRGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!! EUr Dum!
Me: lol. Perception. You can hardly trust your limited comprehension
abilities enough to throw stones, son.
Lady: Hello, this is Candy, how may I help you.
You: Well Candy, I'm 38 years old and have never felt the touch of a woman
Lady: Oh my goodness, you poor baby! You are 38 and a virgin?
You: I didn't say I was a virgin, I just said that I had never felt the
touch of a woman.
Lady: Sweety, we are going to take care of that as soon as possible. Where
do you live?
You: ............................. street, Anytown USA.
Lady: I will have one of my best girls head right over.
You: That's neato but can you make sure that she doesn't knock on the front
door. My mom doesn't understand that a grown man has urges and she is still
spouting that, "Not under my roof", bs she has been giving me for the last
20 years.
Lady: Ok, Visa or MasterCard, sweety.
You: Actually, American Express. But can you tell me how it will show up
on the statement because I need to convince my dad that it was for more
model airplanes.
Oh gosh damn! Thats sum funny shit.
Strychnine
2005-07-01 17:52:40 UTC
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He probably got it from Prez. Bush..
Yep, he's a big supporter.
Pol Pot had his fans too...
Boody Bandit
2005-06-30 15:14:31 UTC
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Post by Seefor
Post by Ron Mexico
Post by GMAN
Post by Seefor
The bigger they are the harder they fall. Sony's time at the top will have
end at some point (maybe not even this generation) I just hope they
haven't invested so much money that it brings down their TV empire as well.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/4632931.stm
All that shows is that the demand for old style CRT's have fallen in favor of
LCD, DLP, and plasma technologies. How in the hell does this have anything to
do with the PS3 or Sony's solvency?
I was wondering the same thing. Maybe if he had pointed to the link about
Sony dropping out of the plasma production loop in favor of LCD that would
have been a little closer to being relevant even though it is only a rumor.
Either way Playstation will fade and die. I am right, and will be proven
right.
awe.... aint it cute?
a new troll
Seefor
2005-06-30 15:59:32 UTC
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Post by Boody Bandit
Post by Seefor
Post by Ron Mexico
Post by GMAN
Post by Seefor
Post by greenyammo
The bigger they are the harder they fall. Sony's time at the top will
have
end at some point (maybe not even this generation) I just hope they
haven't invested so much money that it brings down their TV empire
as
well.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/4632931.stm
All that shows is that the demand for old style CRT's have fallen in favor of
LCD, DLP, and plasma technologies. How in the hell does this have anything to
do with the PS3 or Sony's solvency?
I was wondering the same thing. Maybe if he had pointed to the link
about
Post by Seefor
Post by Ron Mexico
Sony dropping out of the plasma production loop in favor of LCD that
would
Post by Seefor
Post by Ron Mexico
have been a little closer to being relevant even though it is only a rumor.
Either way Playstation will fade and die. I am right, and will be proven
right.
awe.... aint it cute?
a new troll
Heh, do you call everyone who you don't agree with a troll?
Boody Bandit
2005-06-30 17:31:54 UTC
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Post by Seefor
Post by Boody Bandit
Post by Seefor
Post by Ron Mexico
Post by GMAN
Post by Seefor
Post by greenyammo
The bigger they are the harder they fall. Sony's time at the top will
have
end at some point (maybe not even this generation) I just hope they
haven't invested so much money that it brings down their TV empire
as
well.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/4632931.stm
All that shows is that the demand for old style CRT's have fallen in favor of
LCD, DLP, and plasma technologies. How in the hell does this have anything to
do with the PS3 or Sony's solvency?
I was wondering the same thing. Maybe if he had pointed to the link
about
Post by Seefor
Post by Ron Mexico
Sony dropping out of the plasma production loop in favor of LCD that
would
Post by Seefor
Post by Ron Mexico
have been a little closer to being relevant even though it is only a rumor.
Either way Playstation will fade and die. I am right, and will be proven
right.
awe.... aint it cute?
a new troll
Heh, do you call everyone who you don't agree with a troll?
Nah, only dumbfucks like you that say stupid ass shit like the industry
leading company is going to fail.
If it was said about Nintendo, MS, Sony or Sega I would still call you the
new dumbfuck troll.
My thinking is old troll with a new nickname
Seefor
2005-06-30 19:04:56 UTC
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"Seefor"
Post by Seefor
Post by Boody Bandit
Post by Seefor
Post by Ron Mexico
Post by GMAN
Post by Seefor
Post by greenyammo
The bigger they are the harder they fall. Sony's time at the top will
have
end at some point (maybe not even this generation) I just hope
they
Post by Seefor
Post by Boody Bandit
Post by Seefor
Post by Ron Mexico
Post by GMAN
Post by Seefor
Post by greenyammo
haven't invested so much money that it brings down their TV empire
as
well.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/4632931.stm
All that shows is that the demand for old style CRT's have fallen
in
favor of
LCD, DLP, and plasma technologies. How in the hell does this have anything to
do with the PS3 or Sony's solvency?
I was wondering the same thing. Maybe if he had pointed to the link
about
Post by Seefor
Post by Ron Mexico
Sony dropping out of the plasma production loop in favor of LCD that
would
Post by Seefor
Post by Ron Mexico
have been a little closer to being relevant even though it is only a rumor.
Either way Playstation will fade and die. I am right, and will be
proven
Post by Seefor
Post by Boody Bandit
Post by Seefor
right.
awe.... aint it cute?
a new troll
Heh, do you call everyone who you don't agree with a troll?
Nah, only dumbfucks like you that say stupid ass shit like the industry
leading company is going to fail.
If it was said about Nintendo, MS, Sony or Sega I would still call you the
new dumbfuck troll.
My thinking is old troll with a new nickname
You really have a great life don't you? Shouldn't you be getting back to
onanism?
Boody Bandit
2005-06-30 20:54:55 UTC
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Post by Seefor
"Seefor"
Post by Seefor
Post by Boody Bandit
Post by Seefor
Post by Ron Mexico
Post by GMAN
Post by Seefor
Post by greenyammo
The bigger they are the harder they fall. Sony's time at the
top
Post by Seefor
Post by Seefor
Post by Boody Bandit
Post by Seefor
Post by Ron Mexico
Post by GMAN
Post by Seefor
Post by greenyammo
will
have
end at some point (maybe not even this generation) I just hope
they
Post by Seefor
Post by Boody Bandit
Post by Seefor
Post by Ron Mexico
Post by GMAN
Post by Seefor
Post by greenyammo
haven't invested so much money that it brings down their TV empire
as
well.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/4632931.stm
All that shows is that the demand for old style CRT's have fallen
in
favor of
LCD, DLP, and plasma technologies. How in the hell does this have
anything to
do with the PS3 or Sony's solvency?
I was wondering the same thing. Maybe if he had pointed to the link
about
Post by Seefor
Post by Ron Mexico
Sony dropping out of the plasma production loop in favor of LCD that
would
Post by Seefor
Post by Ron Mexico
have been a little closer to being relevant even though it is only
a
Post by Seefor
Post by Seefor
Post by Boody Bandit
Post by Seefor
Post by Ron Mexico
rumor.
Either way Playstation will fade and die. I am right, and will be
proven
Post by Seefor
Post by Boody Bandit
Post by Seefor
right.
awe.... aint it cute?
a new troll
Heh, do you call everyone who you don't agree with a troll?
Nah, only dumbfucks like you that say stupid ass shit like the industry
leading company is going to fail.
If it was said about Nintendo, MS, Sony or Sega I would still call you the
new dumbfuck troll.
My thinking is old troll with a new nickname
You really have a great life don't you?
I look at it half full.
Post by Seefor
Shouldn't you be getting back to
onanism?
Shouldn't you be getting back to your bridge?
Seefor
2005-06-30 21:03:44 UTC
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Post by Boody Bandit
Post by Seefor
"Seefor"
Post by Seefor
Post by Boody Bandit
Post by Seefor
Post by Ron Mexico
Post by GMAN
Post by Seefor
Post by greenyammo
The bigger they are the harder they fall. Sony's time at the
top
Post by Seefor
Post by Seefor
Post by Boody Bandit
Post by Seefor
Post by Ron Mexico
Post by GMAN
Post by Seefor
Post by greenyammo
will
have
end at some point (maybe not even this generation) I just hope
they
Post by Seefor
Post by Boody Bandit
Post by Seefor
Post by Ron Mexico
Post by GMAN
Post by Seefor
Post by greenyammo
haven't invested so much money that it brings down their TV empire
as
well.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/4632931.stm
All that shows is that the demand for old style CRT's have fallen
in
favor of
LCD, DLP, and plasma technologies. How in the hell does this have
anything to
do with the PS3 or Sony's solvency?
I was wondering the same thing. Maybe if he had pointed to the
link
Post by Seefor
Post by Seefor
Post by Boody Bandit
about
Post by Seefor
Post by Ron Mexico
Sony dropping out of the plasma production loop in favor of LCD
that
Post by Seefor
Post by Seefor
Post by Boody Bandit
would
Post by Seefor
Post by Ron Mexico
have been a little closer to being relevant even though it is only
a
Post by Seefor
Post by Seefor
Post by Boody Bandit
Post by Seefor
Post by Ron Mexico
rumor.
Either way Playstation will fade and die. I am right, and will be
proven
Post by Seefor
Post by Boody Bandit
Post by Seefor
right.
awe.... aint it cute?
a new troll
Heh, do you call everyone who you don't agree with a troll?
Nah, only dumbfucks like you that say stupid ass shit like the industry
leading company is going to fail.
If it was said about Nintendo, MS, Sony or Sega I would still call you
the
Post by Seefor
new dumbfuck troll.
My thinking is old troll with a new nickname
You really have a great life don't you?
I look at it half full.
Post by Seefor
Shouldn't you be getting back to
onanism?
Shouldn't you be getting back to your bridge?
Yes well I'd love to further pursue our palaver but I'm afraid I'm not
fluent in paedomorphosis
Boody Bandit
2005-06-30 22:28:49 UTC
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"Seefor"
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The bigger they are the harder they fall. Sony's time at the
top
Post by Seefor
Post by Seefor
Post by Boody Bandit
Post by Seefor
Post by Ron Mexico
Post by GMAN
Post by Seefor
Post by greenyammo
will
have
end at some point (maybe not even this generation) I just hope
they
Post by Seefor
Post by Boody Bandit
Post by Seefor
Post by Ron Mexico
Post by GMAN
Post by Seefor
Post by greenyammo
haven't invested so much money that it brings down their TV
empire
as
well.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/4632931.stm
All that shows is that the demand for old style CRT's have fallen
in
favor of
LCD, DLP, and plasma technologies. How in the hell does this have
anything to
do with the PS3 or Sony's solvency?
I was wondering the same thing. Maybe if he had pointed to the
link
Post by Seefor
Post by Seefor
Post by Boody Bandit
about
Post by Seefor
Post by Ron Mexico
Sony dropping out of the plasma production loop in favor of LCD
that
Post by Seefor
Post by Seefor
Post by Boody Bandit
would
Post by Seefor
Post by Ron Mexico
have been a little closer to being relevant even though it is only
a
Post by Seefor
Post by Seefor
Post by Boody Bandit
Post by Seefor
Post by Ron Mexico
rumor.
Either way Playstation will fade and die. I am right, and will be
proven
Post by Seefor
Post by Boody Bandit
Post by Seefor
right.
awe.... aint it cute?
a new troll
Heh, do you call everyone who you don't agree with a troll?
Nah, only dumbfucks like you that say stupid ass shit like the industry
leading company is going to fail.
If it was said about Nintendo, MS, Sony or Sega I would still call you
the
Post by Seefor
new dumbfuck troll.
My thinking is old troll with a new nickname
You really have a great life don't you?
I look at it half full.
Post by Seefor
Shouldn't you be getting back to
onanism?
Shouldn't you be getting back to your bridge?
Yes well I'd love to further pursue our palaver but I'm afraid I'm not
fluent in paedomorphosis
At least you acknowledge that I am adult.
It's going to be a long summer with assholes kids like you having nothing
better ta do
Seefor
2005-07-01 09:18:35 UTC
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Post by Seefor
Post by Boody Bandit
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"Seefor"
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Post by Ron Mexico
Post by GMAN
Post by Seefor
Post by greenyammo
The bigger they are the harder they fall. Sony's time at the
top
Post by Seefor
Post by Seefor
Post by Boody Bandit
Post by Seefor
Post by Ron Mexico
Post by GMAN
Post by Seefor
Post by greenyammo
will
have
end at some point (maybe not even this generation) I just
hope
Post by Seefor
Post by Boody Bandit
Post by Seefor
they
Post by Seefor
Post by Boody Bandit
Post by Seefor
Post by Ron Mexico
Post by GMAN
Post by Seefor
Post by greenyammo
haven't invested so much money that it brings down their TV
empire
as
well.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/4632931.stm
All that shows is that the demand for old style CRT's have fallen
in
favor of
LCD, DLP, and plasma technologies. How in the hell does this have
anything to
do with the PS3 or Sony's solvency?
I was wondering the same thing. Maybe if he had pointed to the
link
Post by Seefor
Post by Seefor
Post by Boody Bandit
about
Post by Seefor
Post by Ron Mexico
Sony dropping out of the plasma production loop in favor of LCD
that
Post by Seefor
Post by Seefor
Post by Boody Bandit
would
Post by Seefor
Post by Ron Mexico
have been a little closer to being relevant even though it is only
a
Post by Seefor
Post by Seefor
Post by Boody Bandit
Post by Seefor
Post by Ron Mexico
rumor.
Either way Playstation will fade and die. I am right, and will
be
Post by Seefor
Post by Boody Bandit
Post by Seefor
proven
Post by Seefor
Post by Boody Bandit
Post by Seefor
right.
awe.... aint it cute?
a new troll
Heh, do you call everyone who you don't agree with a troll?
Nah, only dumbfucks like you that say stupid ass shit like the
industry
Post by Seefor
Post by Boody Bandit
Post by Seefor
leading company is going to fail.
If it was said about Nintendo, MS, Sony or Sega I would still call
you
Post by Seefor
Post by Boody Bandit
the
Post by Seefor
new dumbfuck troll.
My thinking is old troll with a new nickname
You really have a great life don't you?
I look at it half full.
Post by Seefor
Shouldn't you be getting back to
onanism?
Shouldn't you be getting back to your bridge?
Yes well I'd love to further pursue our palaver but I'm afraid I'm not
fluent in paedomorphosis
At least you acknowledge that I am adult.
It's going to be a long summer with assholes kids like you having nothing
better ta do
There's so much irony in that statement, I just can't top it.
Boody Bandit
2005-07-01 12:15:06 UTC
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Post by Seefor
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In article
"Seefor"
Post by Seefor
Post by Boody Bandit
Post by Seefor
Post by Ron Mexico
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The bigger they are the harder they fall. Sony's time at
the
top
Post by Seefor
Post by Seefor
Post by Boody Bandit
Post by Seefor
Post by Ron Mexico
Post by Seefor
Post by greenyammo
will
have
end at some point (maybe not even this generation) I just
hope
Post by Seefor
Post by Boody Bandit
Post by Seefor
they
Post by Seefor
Post by Boody Bandit
Post by Seefor
Post by Ron Mexico
Post by Seefor
Post by greenyammo
haven't invested so much money that it brings down their TV
empire
as
well.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/4632931.stm
All that shows is that the demand for old style CRT's have
fallen
in
favor of
LCD, DLP, and plasma technologies. How in the hell does
this
Post by Seefor
Post by Boody Bandit
Post by Seefor
Post by Boody Bandit
Post by Seefor
Post by Seefor
Post by Boody Bandit
Post by Seefor
Post by Ron Mexico
have
anything to
do with the PS3 or Sony's solvency?
I was wondering the same thing. Maybe if he had pointed to the
link
Post by Seefor
Post by Seefor
Post by Boody Bandit
about
Post by Seefor
Post by Ron Mexico
Sony dropping out of the plasma production loop in favor of LCD
that
Post by Seefor
Post by Seefor
Post by Boody Bandit
would
Post by Seefor
Post by Ron Mexico
have been a little closer to being relevant even though it
is
Post by Seefor
Post by Boody Bandit
Post by Seefor
Post by Boody Bandit
Post by Seefor
Post by Seefor
Post by Boody Bandit
Post by Seefor
Post by Ron Mexico
only
a
Post by Seefor
Post by Seefor
Post by Boody Bandit
Post by Seefor
Post by Ron Mexico
rumor.
Either way Playstation will fade and die. I am right, and will
be
Post by Seefor
Post by Boody Bandit
Post by Seefor
proven
Post by Seefor
Post by Boody Bandit
Post by Seefor
right.
awe.... aint it cute?
a new troll
Heh, do you call everyone who you don't agree with a troll?
Nah, only dumbfucks like you that say stupid ass shit like the
industry
Post by Seefor
Post by Boody Bandit
Post by Seefor
leading company is going to fail.
If it was said about Nintendo, MS, Sony or Sega I would still call
you
Post by Seefor
Post by Boody Bandit
the
Post by Seefor
new dumbfuck troll.
My thinking is old troll with a new nickname
You really have a great life don't you?
I look at it half full.
Post by Seefor
Shouldn't you be getting back to
onanism?
Shouldn't you be getting back to your bridge?
Yes well I'd love to further pursue our palaver but I'm afraid I'm not
fluent in paedomorphosis
At least you acknowledge that I am adult.
It's going to be a long summer with assholes kids like you having nothing
better ta do
There's so much irony in that statement, I just can't top it.
GREAT!
Will you be leaving now?
Seefor
2005-07-01 12:30:53 UTC
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Post by Seefor
Post by Boody Bandit
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Post by Boody Bandit
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Post by Ron Mexico
In article
"Seefor"
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Post by Seefor
Post by Ron Mexico
Post by Seefor
Post by greenyammo
The bigger they are the harder they fall. Sony's time at
the
top
Post by Seefor
Post by Seefor
Post by Boody Bandit
Post by Seefor
Post by Ron Mexico
Post by Seefor
Post by greenyammo
will
have
end at some point (maybe not even this generation) I
just
hope
Post by Seefor
Post by Boody Bandit
Post by Seefor
they
Post by Seefor
Post by Boody Bandit
Post by Seefor
Post by Ron Mexico
Post by Seefor
Post by greenyammo
haven't invested so much money that it brings down their
TV
Post by Seefor
Post by Boody Bandit
Post by Seefor
Post by Boody Bandit
Post by Seefor
Post by Seefor
Post by Boody Bandit
Post by Seefor
Post by Ron Mexico
Post by Seefor
Post by greenyammo
empire
as
well.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/4632931.stm
All that shows is that the demand for old style CRT's have
fallen
in
favor of
LCD, DLP, and plasma technologies. How in the hell does
this
Post by Seefor
Post by Boody Bandit
Post by Seefor
Post by Boody Bandit
Post by Seefor
Post by Seefor
Post by Boody Bandit
Post by Seefor
Post by Ron Mexico
have
anything to
do with the PS3 or Sony's solvency?
I was wondering the same thing. Maybe if he had pointed to
the
link
Post by Seefor
Post by Seefor
Post by Boody Bandit
about
Post by Seefor
Post by Ron Mexico
Sony dropping out of the plasma production loop in favor of
LCD
that
Post by Seefor
Post by Seefor
Post by Boody Bandit
would
Post by Seefor
Post by Ron Mexico
have been a little closer to being relevant even though it
is
Post by Seefor
Post by Boody Bandit
Post by Seefor
Post by Boody Bandit
Post by Seefor
Post by Seefor
Post by Boody Bandit
Post by Seefor
Post by Ron Mexico
only
a
Post by Seefor
Post by Seefor
Post by Boody Bandit
Post by Seefor
Post by Ron Mexico
rumor.
Either way Playstation will fade and die. I am right, and
will
Post by Seefor
Post by Boody Bandit
be
Post by Seefor
Post by Boody Bandit
Post by Seefor
proven
Post by Seefor
Post by Boody Bandit
Post by Seefor
right.
awe.... aint it cute?
a new troll
Heh, do you call everyone who you don't agree with a troll?
Nah, only dumbfucks like you that say stupid ass shit like the
industry
Post by Seefor
Post by Boody Bandit
Post by Seefor
leading company is going to fail.
If it was said about Nintendo, MS, Sony or Sega I would still call
you
Post by Seefor
Post by Boody Bandit
the
Post by Seefor
new dumbfuck troll.
My thinking is old troll with a new nickname
You really have a great life don't you?
I look at it half full.
Post by Seefor
Shouldn't you be getting back to
onanism?
Shouldn't you be getting back to your bridge?
Yes well I'd love to further pursue our palaver but I'm afraid I'm not
fluent in paedomorphosis
At least you acknowledge that I am adult.
It's going to be a long summer with assholes kids like you having
nothing
Post by Seefor
Post by Boody Bandit
better ta do
There's so much irony in that statement, I just can't top it.
GREAT!
Will you be leaving now?
If it were possible to 'leave' a newsgroup, then I would be glad to.
Boody Bandit
2005-07-01 14:00:14 UTC
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In article
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The bigger they are the harder they fall. Sony's time at
the
top
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Post by Seefor
Post by Boody Bandit
Post by Seefor
Post by Ron Mexico
Post by Seefor
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will
have
end at some point (maybe not even this generation) I
just
hope
Post by Seefor
Post by Boody Bandit
Post by Seefor
they
Post by Seefor
Post by Boody Bandit
Post by Seefor
Post by Ron Mexico
Post by Seefor
Post by greenyammo
haven't invested so much money that it brings down their
TV
Post by Seefor
Post by Boody Bandit
Post by Seefor
Post by Boody Bandit
Post by Seefor
Post by Seefor
Post by Boody Bandit
Post by Seefor
Post by Ron Mexico
Post by Seefor
Post by greenyammo
empire
as
well.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/4632931.stm
All that shows is that the demand for old style CRT's have
fallen
in
favor of
LCD, DLP, and plasma technologies. How in the hell does
this
Post by Seefor
Post by Boody Bandit
Post by Seefor
Post by Boody Bandit
Post by Seefor
Post by Seefor
Post by Boody Bandit
Post by Seefor
Post by Ron Mexico
have
anything to
do with the PS3 or Sony's solvency?
I was wondering the same thing. Maybe if he had pointed to
the
link
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about
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Sony dropping out of the plasma production loop in favor of
LCD
that
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would
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have been a little closer to being relevant even though it
is
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only
a
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rumor.
Either way Playstation will fade and die. I am right, and
will
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be
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proven
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right.
awe.... aint it cute?
a new troll
Heh, do you call everyone who you don't agree with a troll?
Nah, only dumbfucks like you that say stupid ass shit like the
industry
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leading company is going to fail.
If it was said about Nintendo, MS, Sony or Sega I would still call
you
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the
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new dumbfuck troll.
My thinking is old troll with a new nickname
You really have a great life don't you?
I look at it half full.
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Shouldn't you be getting back to
onanism?
Shouldn't you be getting back to your bridge?
Yes well I'd love to further pursue our palaver but I'm afraid I'm not
fluent in paedomorphosis
At least you acknowledge that I am adult.
It's going to be a long summer with assholes kids like you having
nothing
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better ta do
There's so much irony in that statement, I just can't top it.
GREAT!
Will you be leaving now?
If it were possible to 'leave' a newsgroup, then I would be glad to.
*rolls-eyes*
mganai
2005-06-30 02:33:17 UTC
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http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/06/28/news_6128295.html
Report: PS3 to sell for $399, cost $494 to make
Merrill Lynch Japan predicts Sony will lose more than $1 billion on
hardware during its next-gen console's first year on the market--a sum it
may not be able to recoup.
According to the latest issue of Japanese magazine Toyo Keizai, Merrill
Lynch Japan Securities has recently calculated an analysis that the
production of a single PlayStation 3 console will cost Sony approximately
54,000 yen to make ($494), as of its initial release in 2006.
Merrill Lynch Japan estimates that the machine's main components--namely
its Cell chip, RSX, and BD-ROM drive--will cost about 11,000 yen ($101)
each. After adding the other electronics that will be used in the PS3,
the machine's production cost goes up to 54,000 yen.
Given that Sony's PS3 will face stiff competition from Microsoft's Xbox
360, the chances that Sony will release its console at its production
cost is slim. Under the assumption that the Xbox 360 is expected to sell
at around $299, Merrill Lynch Japan predicts that Sony will sell each PS3
at the price of 44,800 yen ($410) in Japan and $399 in America. That
would mean Sony would suffer a loss of more than 130 billion yen ($1.18
billion) during the first year of the PS3's release.
By comparison, the PlayStation 2 cost 39,800 yen ($364) in Japan and $299
in America when it launched in 2000. During its first year of release,
Sony Computer Entertainment suffered a loss of 51.1 billion yen ($458
million), but it recovered the next year with a profit of 82.9 billion
yen ($759 million), followed by 112.6 billion yen ($1.03 billion) the
year after.
It is normal for game companies to take a loss on hardware whenever a new
console launches, since they typically focus on acquiring market share
rather than generating a profit during the first year. During the second
year and afterward, they can recover the losses with the savings that
come from mass production and with licensing fees from publishers.
However, Merrill Lynch Japan warns that the normal console business cycle
may be disrupted if Microsoft cuts the Xbox 360's price when the
PlayStation 3 launches. The report goes on to say that such a move could
hurt Sony's plans, bringing an additional loss of 80 billion yen ($730
million) in its second year and 50 billion yen ($457 million) in its
third year. Thus far, Sony has already invested 200 billion yen ($1.83
billion) into development and production for the Cell chip alone.
Toyo Keizai goes on to interview Sony Computer Entertainment president
Ken Kutaragi, who avoided revealing the PS3's price but hinted that it
would not be marked down excessively. "Whether consumers think a product
is expensive or cheap all depends on the balance between its appeal and
price," he said. "Our ideal [for the PS3] is for consumers to think to
themselves, 'OK, I'll work more hours and buy it.' We want people to feel
that they want it, no matter what."
"When Nintendo was selling its 16-bit machine at around 12,500 yen
($114), we sold the first PlayStation at 39,800 yen ($364)," continued
Kutaragi. "The press was saying that it was expensive, but it was a huge
hit. It's the same thing with the PlayStation Portable from last year.
The Game Boy Advance is a same handheld gaming machine, and it costs less
than 10 thousand yen ($91). On the other hand, our PSP had cost 25,000
yen ($229). But people lined up overnight to buy it, and it sold out on
the day of its launch. It all depends on whether people want it. Of
course, I'm confident that the PS3 is a product that people will
definitely want."
The bigger they are the harder they fall. Sony's time at the top will have
end at some point (maybe not even this generation) I just hope they
haven't invested so much money that it brings down their TV empire as well.
OTOH there are other better purveyors of TV electronics, so it'll hardly be
a huge setback in the big scope of things.
Boody Bandit
2005-06-30 18:04:06 UTC
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Report: PS3 to sell for $399, cost $494 to make
Merrill Lynch Japan predicts Sony will lose more than $1 billion on
hardware during its next-gen console's first year on the market--a sum it
may not be able to recoup.
According to the latest issue of Japanese magazine Toyo Keizai, Merrill
Lynch Japan Securities has recently calculated an analysis that the
production of a single PlayStation 3 console will cost Sony
approximately
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54,000 yen to make ($494), as of its initial release in 2006.
Merrill Lynch Japan estimates that the machine's main
components--namely
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its Cell chip, RSX, and BD-ROM drive--will cost about 11,000 yen ($101)
each. After adding the other electronics that will be used in the PS3,
the machine's production cost goes up to 54,000 yen.
Given that Sony's PS3 will face stiff competition from Microsoft's Xbox
360, the chances that Sony will release its console at its production
cost is slim. Under the assumption that the Xbox 360 is expected to sell
at around $299, Merrill Lynch Japan predicts that Sony will sell each PS3
at the price of 44,800 yen ($410) in Japan and $399 in America. That
would mean Sony would suffer a loss of more than 130 billion yen ($1.18
billion) during the first year of the PS3's release.
By comparison, the PlayStation 2 cost 39,800 yen ($364) in Japan and $299
in America when it launched in 2000. During its first year of release,
Sony Computer Entertainment suffered a loss of 51.1 billion yen ($458
million), but it recovered the next year with a profit of 82.9 billion
yen ($759 million), followed by 112.6 billion yen ($1.03 billion) the
year after.
It is normal for game companies to take a loss on hardware whenever a new
console launches, since they typically focus on acquiring market share
rather than generating a profit during the first year. During the second
year and afterward, they can recover the losses with the savings that
come from mass production and with licensing fees from publishers.
However, Merrill Lynch Japan warns that the normal console business cycle
may be disrupted if Microsoft cuts the Xbox 360's price when the
PlayStation 3 launches. The report goes on to say that such a move could
hurt Sony's plans, bringing an additional loss of 80 billion yen ($730
million) in its second year and 50 billion yen ($457 million) in its
third year. Thus far, Sony has already invested 200 billion yen ($1.83
billion) into development and production for the Cell chip alone.
Toyo Keizai goes on to interview Sony Computer Entertainment president
Ken Kutaragi, who avoided revealing the PS3's price but hinted that it
would not be marked down excessively. "Whether consumers think a product
is expensive or cheap all depends on the balance between its appeal and
price," he said. "Our ideal [for the PS3] is for consumers to think to
themselves, 'OK, I'll work more hours and buy it.' We want people to feel
that they want it, no matter what."
"When Nintendo was selling its 16-bit machine at around 12,500 yen
($114), we sold the first PlayStation at 39,800 yen ($364)," continued
Kutaragi. "The press was saying that it was expensive, but it was a huge
hit. It's the same thing with the PlayStation Portable from last year.
The Game Boy Advance is a same handheld gaming machine, and it costs less
than 10 thousand yen ($91). On the other hand, our PSP had cost 25,000
yen ($229). But people lined up overnight to buy it, and it sold out on
the day of its launch. It all depends on whether people want it. Of
course, I'm confident that the PS3 is a product that people will
definitely want."
The bigger they are the harder they fall. Sony's time at the top will have
end at some point (maybe not even this generation) I just hope they
haven't invested so much money that it brings down their TV empire as well.
OTOH there are other better purveyors of TV electronics, so it'll hardly be
a huge setback in the big scope of things.
not CRT direct view there isn't
mganai
2005-06-30 02:34:39 UTC
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Report: PS3 to sell for $399, cost $494 to make
Merrill Lynch Japan predicts Sony will lose more than $1 billion on
hardware during its next-gen console's first year on the market--a sum it
may not be able to recoup.
According to the latest issue of Japanese magazine Toyo Keizai, Merrill
Lynch Japan Securities has recently calculated an analysis that the
production of a single PlayStation 3 console will cost Sony approximately
54,000 yen to make ($494), as of its initial release in 2006.
Merrill Lynch Japan estimates that the machine's main components--namely
its Cell chip, RSX, and BD-ROM drive--will cost about 11,000 yen ($101)
each. After adding the other electronics that will be used in the PS3, the
machine's production cost goes up to 54,000 yen.
Given that Sony's PS3 will face stiff competition from Microsoft's Xbox
360, the chances that Sony will release its console at its production cost
is slim. Under the assumption that the Xbox 360 is expected to sell at
around $299, Merrill Lynch Japan predicts that Sony will sell each PS3 at
the price of 44,800 yen ($410) in Japan and $399 in America. That would
mean Sony would suffer a loss of more than 130 billion yen ($1.18 billion)
during the first year of the PS3's release.
By comparison, the PlayStation 2 cost 39,800 yen ($364) in Japan and $299
in America when it launched in 2000. During its first year of release,
Sony Computer Entertainment suffered a loss of 51.1 billion yen ($458
million), but it recovered the next year with a profit of 82.9 billion yen
($759 million), followed by 112.6 billion yen ($1.03 billion) the year
after.
It is normal for game companies to take a loss on hardware whenever a new
console launches, since they typically focus on acquiring market share
rather than generating a profit during the first year. During the second
year and afterward, they can recover the losses with the savings that come
from mass production and with licensing fees from publishers.
However, Merrill Lynch Japan warns that the normal console business cycle
may be disrupted if Microsoft cuts the Xbox 360's price when the
PlayStation 3 launches. The report goes on to say that such a move could
hurt Sony's plans, bringing an additional loss of 80 billion yen ($730
million) in its second year and 50 billion yen ($457 million) in its third
year. Thus far, Sony has already invested 200 billion yen ($1.83 billion)
into development and production for the Cell chip alone.
Toyo Keizai goes on to interview Sony Computer Entertainment president Ken
Kutaragi, who avoided revealing the PS3's price but hinted that it would
not be marked down excessively. "Whether consumers think a product is
expensive or cheap all depends on the balance between its appeal and
price," he said. "Our ideal [for the PS3] is for consumers to think to
themselves, 'OK, I'll work more hours and buy it.' We want people to feel
that they want it, no matter what."
"When Nintendo was selling its 16-bit machine at around 12,500 yen ($114),
we sold the first PlayStation at 39,800 yen ($364)," continued Kutaragi.
"The press was saying that it was expensive, but it was a huge hit. It's
the same thing with the PlayStation Portable from last year. The Game Boy
Advance is a same handheld gaming machine, and it costs less than 10
thousand yen ($91). On the other hand, our PSP had cost 25,000 yen ($229).
But people lined up overnight to buy it, and it sold out on the day of its
launch. It all depends on whether people want it. Of course, I'm confident
that the PS3 is a product that people will definitely want."
Call me crazy but I think they'll somehow manage to sell them at $299 from
launch. I mean, weren't people saying the same thing about the PS2 well
before it was released?
Miles Bader
2005-06-30 14:39:10 UTC
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Call me crazy but I think they'll somehow manage to sell them at $299
from launch.
Er, maybe so, but the point of the article is that if they do that,
they'll lose approximately a gazillion dollars, and that the losses may
be so enormous they'll never actually make any money off the PS3 ....

-Miles
--
Love is a snowmobile racing across the tundra. Suddenly it flips over,
pinning you underneath. At night the ice weasels come. --Nietzsche
mganai
2005-06-30 21:46:09 UTC
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Post by mganai
Call me crazy but I think they'll somehow manage to sell them at $299
from launch.
Er, maybe so, but the point of the article is that if they do that,
they'll lose approximately a gazillion dollars, and that the losses may
be so enormous they'll never actually make any money off the PS3 ....
-Miles
Oh yeah. Forgot to type that part. Unless the thing is a smashing success
from the get go, they'll be between a rock and a hard place this time
around.
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